Newsletter 26-2 October 2021

 

Membership Renewal

 

ZVA keeps the memory of Zichydorf and its people alive on its web site through your generosity. It also provides information on many associated villages. Please help us keep the site alive by paying our annual membership fee of a paltry $10.

 

Membership is based on the calendar year. Please check your dues status on the web site. Log in and go to “Your Profile” in the user menu and scroll down to "Dues paid to the end of: ____" If you have not yet paid for 2022, please remit your dues using one of the options described on the Membership page. I will downgrade unrenewed members on the web site in April of each year to give you plenty of grace. From September on, I will credit new members for the following year. If you are not connected to the Internet, send your dues to the address at the bottom of this letter and I will update you. Thanks for contributing to our common cause.

 

COVID-19

 

During the summer I was quite hopeful that we would finally be able to physically meet again in the fall. However, the local number of active cases, the number in hospital and the number in ICU are at all-time highs, so we have postponed once again. Hopefully things will have subsided by spring.

 

Zichydorf Familienbuch

 

I had a recent query about updating and correcting the information in the Familienbuch. I emailed Helmut Kaiser about this and other aspects of his site. Here is a summary of his reply.

 

When he receives additions and corrections for Zichydorf, he will update both websites (https://www.ortsfamilienbuecher.de/index.php and http://zichydorf.ferienwohnung-otterberg.de/). Since every update is a lot of work, he will only do it once or twice a year. If people have additions or corrections, they should send them to him at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..

 

Due to European privacy rules, he can only show people on the Internet who were born 100 years ago or have been dead for 30 years. He will only accept data that can be verified through a reputable source. Word of mouth is not sufficient to overturn what is written in the church registers.

 

North Dakota Banaters

 

David Preston, Administrator of the Banat email list, posted the following information.

 

Dave Dreyer has released a major update to his North Dakota Family Register PDF file (Last updated in October 2018). It now consists of 572 pages, including maps, reference resources used and links from the Table of Contents to specific sections of the work. Also updated are the hyperlinks to third-party resources and references. The German-Hungarian Place Name Equivalence Table alone is worth a look for every researcher, unless you have an old Ortssippenbuch from the 1980s. :-)

Go to: https://www.banatbooks.com/FamilyRegister.htm and click on the PDF icon. You can read it in your web browser or download the file. Of course, you can also use the PDF Search feature to find specific surnames or other data.

Once again, Dave Dreyer has invested decades of work and data extraction from a plethora of sources to make this a very compelling reference work. 

 

XII Deutsch Banater Grenz Regiment

 

More from David Preston about Dave Dreyer research:

 

 

Dave Dreyer’s VII Grenzland Introduction is a multi-year labor to assemble and transcribe the records of the VII Grenz Banater Regiment, which guarded the Banat Military Frontier. While Dave chose to describe this work as an introduction, his opus consists of 145 pages, with footnotes, definitions of the abbreviations used in the records and examples of the records and maps which augment the reader's journey exploring these extractions.

The reader can traverse the work on-line in a web browser, or the file can be downloaded as a PDF. There are links in the Table of Contents to each Section, so the reader can jump to that portion of the work. The reader can jump back to the Table of Contents by clicking on the footer of any page. 

 

https://www.banatbooks.com/VII_Grenzland_introduction.pdf and the Database of the records: https://www.banatbooks.com/colonists/1770_1773__Reichscolonists_list.php 

 

 

NOTE: You probably noticed that the title of this item says XII regiment while the text and link say VII regiment. XII is correct in Dave’s research and the PDF document. I have notified David Preston of the error in his message, but the link continues using VII. It may be corrected some time in the future requiring you to edit the link.

Online Church Books for Hatzfeld and Deutsch Zerne at FamilySearch.org

 

Katholische Kirche Hatzfeld (Banat), Kirchenbuch, 1766-1851

 

<https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/12635> 

 

              

 

Deutsch-Zerne, Római Katólikus Egyház, Németcsernya, Anyakönyvek, 1808-1864

 

<https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/305866?availability=Online> 

 

 

 

Eastern European Gravestone Pictures

 

There is a pretty good collection of Vojvodina and Romania Cemeteries in Find a Grave:

 

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery-browse/Serbia/Vojvodina/Ju%C5%BEnobanatski-okrug?id=county_6298

 

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery-browse/Serbia/Vojvodina/Srednjebanatski-okrug?id=county_6301

 

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery-browse/Serbia/Vojvodina/Severnobanatski-okrug?id=county_6300

 

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery-browse/Romania?id=country_6

 

You can find gravestone pictures for a few Banat places at Compgen (Verein für Computergenealogie). Although it is mainly focussed on Germany, there are also some Eastern Europe cemeteries. You will find Lazarfeld, Setschan, Rudolfsgnad, Temesvar, and Budapest. The non-Germany overview page is at https://grabsteine.genealogy.net/nationlist.php. Then select "Rumänien", "Serbien" or "Ungarn".

 

Billiongraves also has some: https://billiongraves.de/

 

 

 

There are a very few on geneanet: https://en.geneanet.org/cemetery/

 

Online Familienbucher

 

Banatbooks.com published the following info in an email. The HOG-Großscham-Perkos Working Group has compiled several Banat Familienbucher on its website. The site is in German, but you can easily read it with a translation program. Some FBs are complete, but others are still in progress with only partial information posted. In some cases, the partial information will be sufficient to find the people in the original church records available from the ZVA website.

 

All the PDF files have been indexed. So, for example, from the Table of Contents there are embedded links that jump to that Section of the FB. You can easily return to the Table of Contents by clicking on the header or footer of any page.

 

The Acrobat Search function is particularly good for finding family information. However, with such large files, searching for common names such as "Johann" will take some time... So be prepared! Also, setting the page size to 75-100%, has proven its worth. These PDFs are for 'big screen' use.

 

We highly recommend perusing the entire website. It is very well organised and contains much more information about the whole area, the culture, and traditions. As they say on their "Wir" (We) page "...Have fun browsing and do not forget, we are grateful for suggestions and contributions. Please contact us." email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

 

The direct link to their Genealogy downloads page is HOG-Großscham. Please scroll to the bottom of the page to find the links to the PDF files. If you have any questions about the Genealogy page, please contact us via email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

ZVA web site

The platform on which we are running our web site is no longer meeting our needs. We will be moving to Wordpress in the near future. The move should be seamless for users. Stand by for further information.

 

Zichydorf Village Association Newsletter

 

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Research and Travel in Banat

It is vitally important to have local expertise and a local interpreter when operating in Serbia and/or Romania. ZVA has had excellent experience with two individuals in Banat: Staša Cvetković and Sorin Fortiu.

Staša Cvetković

Staša is our go-to guy in Serbia. He has excellent contacts in archives and village offices throughout the Serbian Banat. He has an extensive personal database of the lcoations of various records. He is also an excellent tour planner, proposing detailed itineraries full of local interest. Staša can transport groups of up to seven people in his Mercedes Vito and is willing to travel in Romania. His web site is at http://www.synergia.rs/

Sorin Fortiu

Sorin is the premier and most professional researcher in the archives of Timisoara and Arad. He is also an expert historian. Sorin does not drive, but will conduct tours if you can arrange transportation. His web site is at http://www.genealogy.ro/

Find more detailed information on our site at Zichydorf Records Research (you must be logged in to view this link)